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Can't you? I rather thought that the premise of our present condition.

everybody measures personal success differently

anyway
she's not here

[ But Grace is! ... :c ]

And how do you measure it?

that's a very good question !
right now the only personal goal that matters is what we can accomplish on this ship
with regard to inmate-specific goals and also general improvements to our community here at large

i suppose success in those areas remains to be seen
but i believe they can be achieved :)

Admirable — and terribly vague. Most men on this ship believe they made the right choices. Every one of us followed through.

or didn't follow through
or failed at a thing they were trying to follow through

after all if their choices were really the right ones
i doubt they'd have ended up here :)

What is it that renders the judgment of this system above your own?

I've no interest in raving of cults. But I'd not see you jettison your own morality without cause.

well you and i both know i'm no expert :)

it's a good thing that my own morality puts helping others first, then!

I'm afraid that's the crux of the issue. You cannot outsource your decisions ad infinitum — there always comes a time when one need choose. The road of good intention is pitted with graves.

Are you familiar with the cartwright's dillemma?

so everyone keeps telling me

graves aren't as permanent as most people seem to think :)

Corpses have a way of washing up clean. Unusual, isn't it? That this present death scrubbed nothing of our silt.

The cartwright's dillemma is a thought experiment. Indulge me —

A wagon plunges down the street. There are three men in its path; if the wagon is not turned aside, these three men will die. If you turn the wagon aside, one man will die.

Do you turn the wagon?

yes

Why?

... because 3 is greater than 1 ?

sorry is this supposed to be a hypothetical ?
i might be doing this wrong

You're doing quite well. You've made a decision.

There are infinite variations. Perhaps the lone victim is a loved one, or their manner of death asks that you throw them before the cart. Or that those three have committed terrible deeds, and the one an innocent soul. Else that he is an important man, and sparing him today will spare twenty more tomorrow —

The details are not the purpose. Merely a framework to ask oneself: What am I willing to do, to do what is right?

it makes sense that there are people who need to ask themselves what they stand for

are you one of them ?

You owe any man you kill that much, Grace. No life is a number alone.

for the record i have definitely not killed anybody

in case you were worried about that

I have. Does that worry you?

i think as long as you don't kill anybody on this ship we'll be okay :)

Good.

May I show you something, Grace?

[ CONCERNING ]

i guess that depends on what you want to show me !

A memory - a dilemma.

[ Starting to feel as though she's going to be tested on this later... ]

sure
if you think it'll be helpful

[ Just, you know, helpful to whom. And for what reason. ]

I trust in the value of your perspective.

Shall we meet outside the SIRE - say, half past?

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