trj communicator ;

[kaijuice]

SILCO ;

INMATE OF THE S.F.S. PEREGRINE

Comments

[kaijuice]

We did not begin upon even terms — such squabbles are common to men of a certain age. I shouldn't let it trouble you.

Any name signifies what you allow it. Is there reason to shed yours?

[expectaspectre]

[ He coulda just stopped at "men" tbh. ]

not really
my family's not great but it's nothing to change my name over
there were a lot of Graces in my year in school but no others here so
it's not as necessary

the alliteration is a little embarrassing

[kaijuice]

Really? I think it memorable.

[expectaspectre]

well thank you :)

anyway it could always be worse
they named my sister Prudence

[kaijuice]

Does she live up to it?

[expectaspectre]

she would say so
she's very successful

[kaijuice]

You disagree?

[expectaspectre]

not really
she made the right choices for herself and followed through
can't argue with that :)

[kaijuice]

Can't you? I rather thought that the premise of our present condition.

[expectaspectre]

everybody measures personal success differently

anyway
she's not here

[ But Grace is! ... :c ]

[kaijuice]

And how do you measure it?

[expectaspectre]

that's a very good question !
right now the only personal goal that matters is what we can accomplish on this ship
with regard to inmate-specific goals and also general improvements to our community here at large

i suppose success in those areas remains to be seen
but i believe they can be achieved :)

[kaijuice]

Admirable — and terribly vague. Most men on this ship believe they made the right choices. Every one of us followed through.

[expectaspectre]

or didn't follow through
or failed at a thing they were trying to follow through

after all if their choices were really the right ones
i doubt they'd have ended up here :)

[kaijuice]

What is it that renders the judgment of this system above your own?

I've no interest in raving of cults. But I'd not see you jettison your own morality without cause.

[expectaspectre]

well you and i both know i'm no expert :)

it's a good thing that my own morality puts helping others first, then!

[kaijuice]

I'm afraid that's the crux of the issue. You cannot outsource your decisions ad infinitum — there always comes a time when one need choose. The road of good intention is pitted with graves.

Are you familiar with the cartwright's dillemma?

[expectaspectre]

so everyone keeps telling me

graves aren't as permanent as most people seem to think :)

[kaijuice]

Corpses have a way of washing up clean. Unusual, isn't it? That this present death scrubbed nothing of our silt.

The cartwright's dillemma is a thought experiment. Indulge me —

A wagon plunges down the street. There are three men in its path; if the wagon is not turned aside, these three men will die. If you turn the wagon aside, one man will die.

Do you turn the wagon?

[expectaspectre]

yes

[kaijuice]

Why?

[expectaspectre]

... because 3 is greater than 1 ?

sorry is this supposed to be a hypothetical ?
i might be doing this wrong

[kaijuice]

You're doing quite well. You've made a decision.

There are infinite variations. Perhaps the lone victim is a loved one, or their manner of death asks that you throw them before the cart. Or that those three have committed terrible deeds, and the one an innocent soul. Else that he is an important man, and sparing him today will spare twenty more tomorrow —

The details are not the purpose. Merely a framework to ask oneself: What am I willing to do, to do what is right?

[expectaspectre]

it makes sense that there are people who need to ask themselves what they stand for

are you one of them ?

[kaijuice]

You owe any man you kill that much, Grace. No life is a number alone.